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| Interdependency Visa (Approved); 1st part: Approved 27 Mar '09, 2nd: App'd 16 Sep '10 | |
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| Topic Started: Feb 17 2009, 06:34:52 PM (1,475 Views) | |
| idiologic | Feb 17 2009, 06:34:52 PM Post #1 |
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When I first signed up and I got news about filing for a visa, I posted the progress thing here but it disappeared. Probably due from inactivity, which is well deserved. I applied at the end of August 2008 and have everything done up to a point. I took a 2 month vacation back to Texas and did things that I was supposed to do months before (like the police checks and stuff). I've been assigned a case officer here and have talked to him on the phone once. He said the only thing I am missing is further evidence of my relationship. You see, my partner has always told me that they'll ask for it when they want more. I'm the kind of person who walks in with a shopping bag full of papers and says "Here you go. This is what I have." So I'm to that point now. I'm going to go later this week to turn in a few things. I've looked at what you other guys have put in for your spousal visas and interdependent visas and stuff. He said he was satisfied that we've been in a relationship for a long, long time but it came down to me needing evidence leading up to August 2008. He paid most of the bills and those bills were in his name so we don't have that. Since I was in school, he took care of a lot of it. And yeah, he still does. So I am really sunk as far as the financial stuff goes. So that's where I am at this point. Just that I need to get everything together now that I can. And drop it off at immigration by Friday. I've got a few things which I am not sure are relevant like Gmail chats we were having while away. His mother's here and his job kind of forces him to be gone for bits at a time. So I'm taking care of her while he's in another state. So that's what all those chats were about. I mean, who else would trust you with their mother? The downside, she doesn't know about my relationship with my partner. And I respect my partner's choice to have things that way. I'm not going to force him to come out to his mother. (He's the only son and the only child.) So what should I do at this point? Any pointers or anything? I think my application's pretty much coming to a close so I'm both scared and excited. My last application didn't get this far. I'll go to the office on Friday to drop things off.You are wonderful people. Thanks for the information. |
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| TerritorianTori | Feb 17 2009, 10:27:02 PM Post #2 |
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Hi and welcome back! ![]() Actually, we had a major server crash in October and over 5 months' worth of data was lost. That's probably why you and your previous posts are missing. Sorry 'bout that. I think you should submit anything and everything you can possibly think of - don't hold back. "More is always better", so the saying goes. I know others have had the difficulty of proving that they live together when one person pays all the bills/all in one person's name... I wonder if there's anything you can show them that would prove you were at least in the same area at the time? Like, ATM receipts? Bank statements showing local transactions? Do you have other friends who can vouch for your relationship and the fact that you've lived together? Do you have letters addressed to yourself or both of you at the same address? Has he put your name on any assets? Has he named you the beneficiary on anything (like his superannuation, a will, or something)?Those are the things I can think of at the moment. Best of luck and hope your application is approved sooner than later! ![]() |
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| Janda | Feb 18 2009, 01:13:36 AM Post #3 |
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We didn't have anything as far as evidence from before I arrived in Australia because I came not knowing I would stay forever and I seriously didn't save any of our chats or emails. I started from the time I arrived here in Australia. I printed out mobile phone bills and circled our phone numbers and made handwritten notes on the top saying how they were to show that we talk on the phone each day about 4 times a day. I printed out emails between us from when I was at home and he was at work. I printed out a will for each of us offline and filled it out leaving everything and my son's care to my husband and his family and had friend witness the signing of them. We filled out Guardianship papers to give each other permission to speak for us in the event we couldn't speak for ourselves in a medical situation. We obtained those from Service Tasmania (not sure what your local one is called). After that you can go file them with them and it stays there on file with the state. Just make copies of them. We made photo albums of printed out pictures of me, my husband, my son and my husbands family members out and about. Under each photo I hand wrote what we were doing at the time. We included Bank statements showing we had joint accounts. Basically throw anything and everything that links the two of you together. I also included a couple of extra statutory declarations. They only require 2 from people in Australia but I had my mom and my friend in America fill two out and write a story about our relationship and have them notarized. In your case since his mom doesn't know about your relationship I would have local friends that are aware of the situation all fill out statutory declarations and on there where it asks if there is anything else they would like to declare just have them write everything and anything they know about the two of you and how happy you two are together, what they observe about your relationship, etc. Oh you could have your partner fill out an additional statutory declaration explaining that his mother isn't aware of your relationship (Maybe due to her Health) and that is the reason she won't be speaking for the two of you but he can put a few words about how the two our you live your lives together and how you take care of his mother as if she was your own (just an idea). That's all I can think of right now but don't be shy...throw it all at them. Remember to be organized because I was told my Case Officer that she really appreciated the fact that I had it all together and that it made things go faster and was much easier that way. Good Luck and Keep us Posted! Edited by Janda, Feb 18 2009, 01:21:19 AM.
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| idiologic | Feb 18 2009, 11:42:52 AM Post #4 |
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Hi Tori! Damn those servers, they can be a fussy bunch. But it's OK. I do know that we have the certificate that we got when we signed the relationship register here in Australia. When I talked to the case officer (CO) the other day, he was talking to me like he hasn't seen any of that stuff. I would have thought that was a major thing. Honestly, I wouldn't do something like that unless I really loved them. And of course I do. One of the things the CO said was for the time period up to my application. I have plenty of stuff since then but I'm one of those who stupidly ditch receipts and things if I don't need it. I have a lot of USA credit card bills with purchases made in Australia but I've spoken to him and he said that it wouldn't really help. I'm going to be evil and send them anyway. ![]() I've been a bit ill for the past few days so I'll have to go to the immigration office on Friday so I get everything together. This is totally unrelated but... when I went back to the USA I forgot to get one thing. I forgot to get a corn dog and I'm totally kicking myself for it.
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| idiologic | Feb 18 2009, 11:48:11 AM Post #5 |
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Hola Janda, Thanks for your advice! I really appreciate it. I only sent in a few pictures and I read somewhere that someone sent a CD of photos. I'm thinking about the same thing. The thing is that I look so pissed off in all the pictures. I'm a bit sensitive to temperature changes and I hate the wind (and Melbourne's not the greatest with that). Great fun. At least all the people at immigration will have a laugh at me. ![]() My case officer is probably ready to feed me to the sharks for taking so long. But it's a two way road there. I had to be the one to contact them to get a case officer. It took me going up there and applying to leave for the USA for three months for them to say "Oh yeah, you've been assigned a case officer." I was thinking, hey, how nice. It only took you 5 months. I'll do what I can and hopefully it goes well. |
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| elsja | Feb 18 2009, 12:44:25 PM Post #6 |
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FYI- they don't like it when you send CDs. I read that a bunch and a few people even were told that they had to print them out and bring them back. I personally just printed some out on crappy printer paper and that was good enough. Do you have any record of transferring money to your partner or vice versa? Or any record of HIM paying bills that are in your name. ANYTHING to show that you were sharing money in a way? We showed some statements that had transfers of money between me and my boyfriend because we were in the same situation- all the bills are in his name, but i would transfer money to him to help pay. As tors mentioned... do you have any mail that was addressed to both of you? It's tough to FIND evidence. I guess I always knew that I may need it so I saved EVERYTHING. Espeically in the 6 months leading up to my move and then when I did move, I knew I would need the evidence so I tried to start a file. It's way harder to go back and try to find the stuff- but maybe the stat decs would help? Have you guys traveled together? Any itineraries or boarding passes that show you went somewhere together? |
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| Kymanne | Feb 18 2009, 01:47:52 PM Post #7 |
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What they do not like is anything electronic such as musical cards. I read through the mailing requirements and I found nothing that says cd's are not allowed The reason behind not sending electronics is because when they are screened it takes longer for them to go through security. I sent 1 Cd with Photos and 1 Cd with home movies and my CO had no objections. I also sent a handful of printed pictures. My feelings on sending the CD's is at the most they will take the time to look at them (which can only help our visa) or they just won't bother with them entirely. I figured what is the harm? |
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| elsja | Feb 18 2009, 02:33:24 PM Post #8 |
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Hmm maybe all COs are different. Maybe you got lucky because you also printed some photos out as well. I know someone who only provided a cd with photos and their application was held up because the CO said they wouldn't view the CD and she needed to print and send in photos or copies of photos. I guess if you send both you would be covered. THis is what the immigration department sent me before my appointment (see highlighted portion) http://aquate.us/u/visa.jpg Tors edit: Sorry elsja, your image broke my browser! hehe. I changed it to a link. Click to view. Edited by TerritorianTori, Feb 18 2009, 05:08:30 PM.
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| Janda | Feb 19 2009, 08:40:08 AM Post #9 |
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I second that Elsja. My appointment letter said the same thing. No Cd's. I think its better to be safe than sorry and just delay things. I guess they could always take the chance and send in both pics and cd's but then again it could also tick the case officer off by not following directions. Having your stuff together is a big Plus from what I understand. I'm sure it won't get you an approval if you were not gonna be approved anyway but at least it puts your CO in a good mood and shows that you are serious and mean business because every I was dotted and every T was crossed. |
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| Kymanne | Feb 19 2009, 12:23:25 PM Post #10 |
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I never received that letter because they never asked for an appointment. Either way, my CO did not seem to mind. Luck, maybe. |
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| idiologic | Feb 20 2009, 10:12:27 AM Post #11 |
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Yeah definitely don't want to piss the CO off this time around. I'll just have to drop what I have off today (have been horribly sick over the past 5 days) and make another drop off early next week I think. My partner has also been away on a business trip for the last week too, so yeah it makes things a bit more difficult. (And the fact that he was overseas for a month while I've been back.) I left for a few months, came back and all my stuff was rearranged! I absolutely hate when people do that... it makes things take 10 times longer. So yeah I still can't mind much of anything. (My partner's mom is here staying in our other room and she's totally oblivious to our relationship which makes things very hard, so I can't go into "his" room and start digging through stuff. I go through our stuff in the stacks of papers in the hall closets and she looks at me like, "WTF are you doing?") The whole situation right now bites. But it's livable. Hi ho it's getting papers together and off to immigration I go! |
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| idiologic | Feb 23 2009, 11:58:06 PM Post #12 |
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I submitted a few papers minus my credit card statements with the USA addresses on them. Like some real estate junk I had to witness that made me put my address on it, some notes I wrote to my boyfriend to tell him what he needed to do for the day and a few other things like old phone records. (We have them dating back from 2000...) I found some Christmas cards after I sent the stuff and post cards and things like that. We *had* a joint credit card back in 2001 but the housemate stole mine and charged porn on it so I never got another one. Until now. So it's kind of hard to submit from a year before Aug 2008. But yeah, we've been a couple for like 9 years now almost. Isn't that enough?! I'd much rather do an interview or something. He's been asking me to go to the US with him in June but I said "No" because I just came from there and I'm supposedly starting school again in July if I get the OK. Anyway, stuff is in and I'll send another batch soon. A small one. That's all I've got now. Bye for now. |
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| LookingDown(Under) | Feb 24 2009, 03:08:19 PM Post #13 |
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Well hey, old credit card statements and letters are better then nothing. I would call the CO and ask if it is ok to send the Christmas cards now that you found them. Those are always more personal and will probably be good evidence. Good luck on your app! |
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| Janda | Feb 24 2009, 03:34:52 PM Post #14 |
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Including cards is a good idea. We included cards we got for our wedding from friends and family. She kept them for a bit and then packaged them up and sent them all back to us. She did however keep the photo album I made so for future reference be sure not to send your original photos (we just printed ours out on plain paper) because you probably won't see them for a very, very long time if ever again...LOL. **Edited because I forgot that plain meaning simple was not spelled plane like the big arse thing you fly on. **
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| TerritorianTori | Feb 24 2009, 04:47:08 PM Post #15 |
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It's sooo frustrating, isn't it. I suspect it's purely bureaucratic; they need to tick that proof-of-12-months-cohabitation box.Hopefully what you've got will help. Still racking my brain to think of anything else.
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| idiologic | Mar 13 2009, 11:06:08 AM Post #16 |
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OK everything that I can possibly do is in. So it's a waiting game now. I sent a letter asking what I'm supposed to do about enrolling in school again (and as a @$#*$% international student). Hopefully I'll hear something soon but just in case, I'm heading to the university I'm supposed to attend to do a Q & A session. I still want a corn dog. I'll keep you guys and girls updated a little better from now on. Thanks for all your suggestions and help!
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| meg1388 | Mar 13 2009, 05:13:58 PM Post #17 |
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I've been wondering what happened with your visa... I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you! Good luck! |
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| idiologic | Mar 20 2009, 06:31:28 PM Post #18 |
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Just the other day, my case officer called my boyfriend and told him he needed the 2nd Form 888 and our relationship declarations. Funny thing is that it was all sent in to begin with. Like with the visa application (with the 2nd Form 888 (Stat Dec re our relationship in the words of an Australian Citizen... and *just* realized I didn't also get him to send proof of residency, so that's for Monday). Aaaaand I'm just starting to do the Medicare thing though I think I was eligible MONTHS ago (my fault) so I'll take care of that soon too. Hopefully it goes well. |
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| idiologic | Mar 21 2009, 11:12:48 PM Post #19 |
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OK, so I went to the Medicare office on Friday and they said I needed the receipt from my visa so I said alright sure. I didn't have it with me and it was late in the day so I decided to go in today. I sat there for oh, I'd say about 20 minutes and finally went up to the desk. I handed the lady the paperwork and she ran to the back for about 20 minutes and came back. I was thinking, "Oh this can't be good. I guess I'll have to head back to the USA now. She came back and this is what she said: She told me that it looked like I was ineligible for Medicare because of the previous conditions on my visa which were "Work Limitation", "Must have OSHC" and something else. The thing that she didn't like was the OSHC part. At the start of our session, I told her that I wasn't attending class now but I was thinking about going back in July. So she said, "Well, I'll send it to someone on Monday to have it reaccessed and someone should call you on Monday." I kinda *can't* get OSHC because I'm not currently attending class. The Medicare thing isn't of dire importance but it would be nice to get a jump on things. But I'll see what happens early next week.
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| idiologic | Mar 28 2009, 06:20:31 PM Post #20 |
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Yesterday my visa (subclass 826) was approved! Well, the first part of it was. So now I can do all the fun stuff except I still have to pay about $22,000/year for school. The good news is that I only have to do that for one year, so I figure it's worth it. But I'm glad it's over for a while. I go back in July/August 2010 for the permanent residency visa. We've been together since 2000, so I seriously doubt this will be any problem. Aaaaand... I wanted to say a gigantic thanks to all of you who helped me. I really couldn't have done it without you! I was so sure that I would have to get a migration agent but it's great to see people in the same situation and see what they do to get their visa stuff sorted. You are a gem, Tori. ![]() Oh, and an addition: what's next, you ask? Taking care of the Medicare thing, school and driver's license for Victoria I guess.
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