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2nd stage spouse,when can I expect the paperwork?; It was GRANTED! Yay!
Topic Started: Aug 3 2009, 06:06:11 PM (3,380 Views)
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We filed for my spouse visa 2.october 2007 and I was wondering if anyone knows how far ahead of time they send out the stage 2 paperwork?
Also,will my sons birth certificate be ok for us to give as evidence? We don't have a passport for him.
thanks very much.
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Officially, they're supposed to send the paperwork 60 days before your 2-yr anniversary date.

However, an increasing number of people are reporting extreme delays. I think that if they don't arrive, say, a week prior to your anniversary, it's time to enquire.

And yes, of course you should submit your son's BC! It's the best evidence of your "genuine and continuing" relationship! :)

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Thanks for the reply Tors :) I think I will need to get another FBI check done since I applied onshore and went on a holiday to the u.s. last year.Does anyone know if this is correct?
Also,is the FBI check good for 12 months like it is with the first stage? I'd like to send away for it now and have one less thing to do when the paperwork arrives. :)
I forgot to add..the reason I was asking about the birth certificate being enough is even my husband had to show them his passport when we applied so I thought they might want me to have a passport for the baby as well.
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Edited by CheekyOne, Aug 6 2009, 01:17:45 PM.


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I just wanted to add that the lady I spoke to at immigration told me if I havn't received the paperwork by 1 month prior to my anniversary that I should call them and chase it up.:)


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I was required to get an FBI check after travelling to the US on my (onshore) temp visa. Not sure if the rules have changed, but probably a good idea to send away for it now. Yeah, FBI checks are good for 12 months, but hopefully your approval won't take near that long! ;)

The baby is neither your sponsor nor part of the application (being an Oz citizen at birth I presume?), so yeah, a BC should be just fine as evidence of change in circumstances & "genuine relationship".

Hope your paperwork comes sooner than later! :cheers:

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There was a page called "Attachment A- Health and Character Checks" that came with my PR packet, and a question on it that says,
"Have you returned to a country for an accumulative period of more than two (2) months since you obtained an initial clearance?"

If your answer is "No," you do NOT need a new FBI check.
If you spent 2 months there (altogether, if more than one visit), you do.

I didn't need one.
My PR packet arrived about 2&1/2 months before my 2-yr anniversary, and I had 60 days to return the info.
Another person's was delayed, and they were allowed only 30 days, so definitely ring them up if you don't have it 1 month prior.
Good luck!
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Thanks Lisa! :mrgreen: I was only out of the country 2 weeks so yay!! One less thing to worry about! :woohoo:

I'll defenitly have to stay on their butts because we plan on renting another place and moving in mid september.i'd hate to see that paperwork get lost in the mail. :eek:

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Rules for supplying FBI checks are a little different for onshore vs offshore visas.

If you originally applied for your spouse visa in Australia, then you'll need an FBI check if you returned to the States for any amount of time.

But if you originally applied offshore (this includes fiancee visa applicants), you get the 2-month grace period.

Of course, the rules may have totally changed in the last few years... in which case, feel free to ignore me. :mrgreen: But that's my understanding of it.
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Rules for supplying FBI checks are a little different for onshore vs offshore visas.

If you originally applied for your spouse visa in Australia, then you'll need an FBI check if you returned to the States for any amount of time.

But if you originally applied offshore (this includes fiancee visa applicants), you get the 2-month grace period.

Of course, the rules may have totally changed in the last few years... in which case, feel free to ignore me. :mrgreen: But that's my understanding of it.
nonono, don't ignore Tors, that makes perfect sense to me! :mrgreen:
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Figures.Although I really can't understand this rule at all lol. Are people who applied offshore less likely to commit a crime while on holiday? :headscratch: I think i'll just do it anyway so if they want it i'll have it.


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Aug 7 2009, 04:16:12 PM
Rules for supplying FBI checks are a little different for onshore vs offshore visas.

If you originally applied for your spouse visa in Australia, then you'll need an FBI check if you returned to the States for any amount of time.

But if you originally applied offshore (this includes fiancee visa applicants), you get the 2-month grace period.

Of course, the rules may have totally changed in the last few years... in which case, feel free to ignore me. :mrgreen: But that's my understanding of it.
Hmmm... :headscratch: Well, I applied onshore initially (defacto, if that makes a difference), and I got the same sheet in my packet that Lisa did. I did not need a new FBI check after visiting the US.
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I did a little digging and on the faq page it has the question that Lisa and Minx got and it doesn't specify anything about it only being for those who applied offshore.hmmm. :headscratch:

http://www.immi.gov.au/migrants/_pdf/faqs-2ndstage.pdf


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I see that. :headscratch: Well, since that's the current information (Feb 2009), I'd believe it.
Guess if your PR packet comes 2 months in advance, and you have 60 days to return everything, you'd have time to send for one if needed, but honestly, it doesn't appear necessary!
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Aug 9 2009, 05:06:38 PM
I did a little digging and on the faq page it has the question that Lisa and Minx got and it doesn't specify anything about it only being for those who applied offshore.hmmm. :headscratch:

http://www.immi.gov.au/migrants/_pdf/faqs-2ndstage.pdf
Well there ya go, the rules must have changed! :)
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So what are the forms included that you need to complete with the 2nd stage paperwork? Just curious as mine should be coming soon, and if there are specific forms that all need to fill out, or if we need to write personal statements again, it would be good to know, so I can get started ahead of time.
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Aug 10 2009, 01:03:28 PM
So what are the forms included that you need to complete with the 2nd stage paperwork? Just curious as mine should be coming soon, and if there are specific forms that all need to fill out, or if we need to write personal statements again, it would be good to know, so I can get started ahead of time.
I think we have to do 2 stat decs again.I'm not sure about the personal statements but I hope we don't have to redo form 80 I think it was? That was a pain having moved as much as I have!When was the date you applied? Mine was oct 2.


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So what are the forms included that you need to complete with the 2nd stage paperwork? Just curious as mine should be coming soon, and if there are specific forms that all need to fill out, or if we need to write personal statements again, it would be good to know, so I can get started ahead of time.
I think we have to do 2 stat decs again.I'm not sure about the personal statements but I hope we don't have to redo form 80 I think it was? That was a pain having moved as much as I have!When was the date you applied? Mine was oct 2.
End of October, so you'll have to let me know, as hopefully you'll get yours before me...and I'll be curious:) You should really have yours now, if it is 60 days out!
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Well, 21 MONTHS AGO, this was it, but remember that it might have changed since then:

(At least) 2 stat decs on Form 888, from Australian citizens or PRs.

There is actually a form for your "Statement on Partner Relationship."
It has boxes approx 10 lines long asking questions (2 per page), such as "Describe your relationship since your temporary visa was granted." (Gives a few details and examples of what they want for each question.) Also shared financial commitments, social activities you engage in, what institutions you have declared your marriage to, etc.
Below each of these 4 question-boxes it says Provide evidence, and gives examples, what documents, etc to include.
Oh and a last full page for any other information you wish to add.

Form 80.

AFP clearance. Don't get it ahead of time, it's only good for 30 days.

A checklist stating all the above, which also asks for details of any overseas travel in the 2 years. And dependents included.

And the page I mentioned in the earlier post where you check yes or no to travel to any country for over 2 months, and if there is any change in your medical condition.

Certified copies of the details pages of both your current passports.

And, I think that was all... Hard to do much of it ahead of time, since the partner statement has to be on their pages.

edit to fix spelling. "There's no place like home...")



Edited by shylady, Aug 10 2009, 08:00:26 PM.
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Aug 10 2009, 07:13:47 PM
Well, 21 MONTHS AGO, this was it, but remember that it might have changed since then:

(At least) 2 stat decs on Form 888, from Australian citizens or PRs.

There is actually a form for your "Statement on Partner Relationship."
It has boxes approx 10 lines long asking questions (2 per page), such as "Describe your relationship since your temporary visa was granted." (Gives a few details and examples of what they want for each question.) Also shared financial commitments, social activities you engage in, what institutions you have declared your marriage to, etc.
Below each of these 4 question-boxes it says Provide evidence, and gives examples, what documents, etc to include.
Oh and a last full page for any other information you wish to add.

Form 80.

AFP clearance. Don't get it ahead of time, it's only good for 30 days.

A checklist stating all the above, which also asks for details of any overseas travel in the 2 years. And dependents included.

And the page I mentioned in the earlier post where you check yes or no to travel to any country for over 2 months, and if there is any change in your medical condition.

Certified copies of the details pages of both your current passports.

And, I think that was all... Hard to do much of it ahead of time, since the partner statement has to be on their pages.

edit to fix spelling. "There's no place like home...")



Thanks Lisa!! :mrgreen: I sure hope they still have that Statement on Partner Relationship form.I am a very straight to the point kind of person and had a hell of a time trying to write a lengthy "story of us" paper the first time around (I ended up with 1 page)so this sounds much better to me! :woohoo:
Did they mail you the paperwork certified?

If i'd had half a brain i'd have made a copy of form 80 and saved it so I could just copy everything.It's going to be painful to try and look up all my former addresses again. :$

Not really looking forward to chasing people up for stat decs either.My in laws are going on a 6 week trip to europe soon so if I don't get the paperwork by the time they leave,I won't be able to get one from them.

Trix,yeah it should have been here by now.Not that i'm really suprised that it's not... :rolleyes:

Edited by CheekyOne, Aug 11 2009, 06:51:15 AM.


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Why don't you call and chase it up?
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